***Monday,
August 19, 2013,
Commissioners met in regular session with
Chairman Dan Dinning, Commissioner LeAlan
Pinkerton, Commissioner Walt Kirby, and Deputy
Clerk Michelle Rohrwasser.
Commissioners gave the opening invocation and
said the Pledge of Allegiance.
9:00 a.m.,
Road and Bridge Superintendent Jeff Gutshall
joined the meeting. Mr. Gutshall presented a
written report.
Copeland Road has
been built up to grade now and will receive dust
abatement. Mr. Gutshall said the same thing will
happen on Lion’s Den
Road. The durapatcher
has been used at a number of locations and road
sign work continues, according to Mr. Gutshall.
Mr. Gutshall said Road and Bridge will apply
dust abatement on
Turkey Hollow Road
and a cost share was suggested by a landowner.
Crusher work will start next week, according to
Mr. Gutshall.
Those present discussed cost sharing on
projects. Commissioners and Mr. Gutshall
discussed various matters to include dust
abatement and grading. Chairman Dinning said he
and Commissioner Pinkerton remember what it was
like before the county roads were paved, and
there is always some inconvenience when living
in a rural area.
9:25 a.m.,
Courthouse Maintenance Jerry Kothe joined the
meeting.
Mr. Gutshall left the meeting at 9:30 a.m.
Mr. Kothe met to present his department report.
The roofer is supposed to be here sometime this
week, according to Mr. Kothe. Mr. Kothe said
surplus items are starting to build up, but it’s
not enough to have an auction. Vern Wilson at
Bonners Ferry Glass has installed a new window
in the stairwell.
Commissioners tended to administrative duties.
Mr. Kothe left the meeting at 9:40 a.m.
9:50 a.m.,
John Marquette with JRS Surveying joined the
meeting so Chairman Dinning could sign the plat
map for Lyle Farms.
Mr. Marquette said he made a few notes about the
utilities and Bonneville Power easement on the
map. Commissioners reviewed the map.
Commissioner Kirby moved to authorize the
Chairman to sign the plat for the Lyle Farms
subdivision and boundary line adjustment.
Commissioner Pinkerton second. Motion passed
unanimously.
Mr. Marquette left the meeting at
9:55 a.m.
10:00 a.m.,
Boundary Volunteer Ambulance President Ken Baker
and Board member Brian Strong joined the
meeting. Bonners Ferry Herald Reporter Laura
Roady also joined the meeting.
Commissioner Kirby moved to recess as the Board
of County Commissioners and convene as the
Governing Board of the Boundary County Ambulance
Service District. Commissioner Pinkerton second.
Motion passed unanimously.
Commissioner Kirby moved to approve the minutes
of July
15, 2013
and
July 22, 2013. Commissioner Pinkerton
second. Motion passed unanimously.
Commissioner Kirby moved to adjourn as the
Governing Board of the Boundary County Ambulance
Service District and reconvene as the Board of
Boundary County Commissioners. Commissioner
Pinkerton second. Motion passed unanimously.
The meeting ended at 10:02 a.m.
Commissioners discussed issues and the potential
for accidents at the Three Mile intersection
where the speed limit is 60 miles per hour.
Commissioners tended to administrative duties.
Commissioners briefly discussed Attorney Tevis
Hull’s recommendation pertaining to the Bonner
County Master Agreement to include a statement
that the Agreement is only in the event an
agreement is not reached with another ambulance
service provider.
Boundary Volunteer Ambulance President Ken Baker
joined the meeting at
10:55 a.m.
President Baker left the meeting at
10:56 a.m.
11:00 a.m., Boundary County Airport Board
members Jay Wages, Bob Blanford, Pat Gardiner,
and Don Jordan; and Brad Niemeyer with JUB
Engineers joined the meeting.
County
Attorney Tevis
Hull
and Roxanne Grimm with Epic Land Solutions
participated via telephone.
Attorney Hull
was to contact legal counsel for the Federal
Aviation Administration (FAA) to determine what
constitutes a certificate of title. Attorney
Hull
said he was provided the Seattle Office’s legal
counsel contact information. From a legal side,
all things could be done as it’s not a legal
issue at that point. It’s if the grant
administrator would be able to provide whether
or not it’s acceptable to them. It was said that
Ms. Grimm, Mr. Niemeyer and Attorney Hull may
want to talk to the grant administrator to tell
them what Boundary
County is facing.
The turn around time is still under the same
conditions, according to Mr. Niemeyer. The
county still has not officially requested
reimbursement and that needs to happen and it
has to do with the certificate of title prior to
reimbursement, reviews, etc. Mr. Niemeyer asked
the FAA about their basis for the conditions and
said the FAA will add grant conditions in
addition to receiving the money.
Attorney Hull
had reviewed the grant request and said it is
fairly generic. There were only a couple things
that were just typos, but the two biggest issues
are that the document states that by signing it,
the county is saying it has the finances for
this project. The certificate of title is the
other issue. Attorney Hull
said he doesn’t think the certificate of title
is needed to sign the grant. It was asked if an
email from Attorney Hull to the FAA saying he
had reviewed the title report and had no issues
would be beneficial, but Mr. Niemeyer said that
wasn’t necessary. What the grant administrator
in Seattle
wants is an email from Attorney Hull stating he
reviewed the encumbrances and doesn’t see issue
with getting them removed or that they won’t be
an impact on airport operation. Attorney
Hull
said he can do that as long as he’s not putting
his name on anything that says the county has
title to the property.
Chairman Dinning said if the anticipated plan is
a deed of trust and the FAA says that is not
acceptable, the county has the option to turn
down the grant. Attorney
Hull
said he would send Mr. Niemeyer the email to be
forwarded to the FAA. Chairman Dinning reviewed
the pages flagged by Attorney Hull containing
errors. Boundary
County has legal authority to carry
out the grant and has finances for the proposed
project, according to Chairman Dinning. Attorney
Hull mentioned verbiage
and questioned if it’s about issuing a check for
a little over $660,000 or providing grant match.
Mr. Niemeyer said he believes the statement is
saying the county has the ability to obtain
those funds. It was asked once Mr. Niemeyer
makes the changes to correct the grant
application, can Commissioners approve and sign
it. Attorney Hull
said yes.
Commissioner Pinkerton moved to authorize the
Chairman to sign the grant application for the
airport project with changes. Commissioner Kirby
second. Motion passed unanimously.
Attorney Hull
said he has not had further communications on
borrowing other than reviewing code sections at
this point. Mr. Niemeyer said based on the
Dinning property, the Dinning’s goal is to close
in the next two weeks so timing is getting
critical. The aim will be to close just beyond
30 days. Going forward will be to fix the
agreement and there will still be communication
between Mr. Niemeyer, Attorney Hull and the
grant administrator to line this out as soon as
possible. Mr. Niemeyer said the deadline for
this grant application to be processed and get
it back with a grant offer is by Wednesday.
The meeting with Mr. Niemeyer, the Airport Board
members, Attorney Hull, and Ms. Grimm ended at 11:24 a.m.
Commissioner tended to administrative duties.
Commissioners recessed for lunch at
noon.
1:30 p.m.,
Commissioners reconvened for the afternoon
session with Chairman Dinning, Commissioner
Pinkerton, Commissioner Kirby and Deputy Clerk
Michelle Rohrwasser.
1:30 p.m., Commissioners held three public
hearings in the Extension Office to consider
establishing a fee for public notary services,
establishing a vendor fee and deposit agreement
for the Parks and Recreation Department and
increasing room rates at the Restorium.
Present were: Chairman Dan Dinning, Commissioner
LeAlan Pinkerton, Commissioner Walt Kirby,
Deputy Clerk Michelle Rohrwasser, Chief Deputy
Clerk Tracie Isaac, Robert DelGrosso, Judy Lyle,
Judy Dirks, Billie Krause, Larry Dirks, Evelyn
Smith, Irene Rice, Larry Hall, Katie Landis,
Steve Olson, Janise Kerby, Carol Hampton, Ron
Smith, Laura Roady with the Bonners Ferry
Herald, Eldora Gatchell, Richard Beck, Chris
Peterson, Elsie Hollenbeck, Richard Hollenbeck,
Deb Wood, Evelyn Holmes, Tamina Boonisar, Dave
Gray, Joyce Trueblood, Sandra Chubb, Jeanne
Osborn, Jan Klopfenstein, Judy Everhart,
Kathleen English, Tia Avery, Jeannie Robinson,
Rod Robinson, Gini Woodward, Wilma DeVore, Peach
Baker, Carol Grove, Ronald Grove, Jerre Stemmene,
Charlene Wells, Vicki McNally, Marciavee
Cossette, Ray Olson, Sharon Dirks, Don Dirks,
Sally Dutson, Janet Sapp, Virginia Cowley, Betty
Mills, Roberta Bowen, Herb Thornton, Dottie
Gray, Cheryl Myers, Shirley Hamilton, J. Kevin
McNally, George Burnett, Sheila Benson, Jeanine
Bender, John Arrington, Eunice Neumeyer, Cindy
Atkins, Sherri Burnett, Elizabeth Wilder, Sharon
Fitzgerald, Restorium Administrator Karlene
Magee, Ken English, Mary Voglewede, Denise
Thompson and Tim Dougherty. The hearing was
recorded.
Chairman Dinning briefly reviewed the public
hearing procedures for the three public hearings
to follow. No member cited a conflict of
interest.
Commissioners opened the public hearing to
consider establishing a damage deposit and
vendor fees for the Parks and Recreation
Department, and Chairman Dinning reviewed the
documents drafted by the Parks and Recreation
Board explaining the vendor fee and deposit
agreement.
The public hearing was opened to public comment
from those in favor and uncommitted to the
proposal. Charlene Wells asked for
clarification. John Arrington,
El Paso Street, said
this is a small town and he explained
difficulties the smaller mom and pop vendors may
have. Mr. Arrington said he can understand the
need to clean up, but we need to work with
people as they may not have a lot of money. Mr.
Arrington said he used to live in
California
and New York
and this had happened there as well. Mr.
Arrington said he moved to
Boundary
County six years ago and he knows
that people are hurting. Rich Beck said he’s
okay with a $50 fee, but questioned how hard it
would be to sign up for the insurance policy.
Betty Mills inquired other than a food vendor,
what other vendors would there be.
Parks and Recreation Board member Tim Dougherty
said the vendor agreement is primary for very
large groups. Mr. Dougherty gave the example of
the Mountain
Springs Church
when they put on a large concert. Mr. Dougherty
said this doesn’t pertain to family reunions,
picnics, softball games, etc. This is just for
big events. The group hosting the July Fourth
event does an excellent job when they clean up
so this fee is more or less an insurance policy
for the large groups. Mr. Dougherty said as it
pertains to the vendor fee, food vendors have
food licenses, but a family came in once and
just plugged in a hot pot to sell food so the
vendor agreement is for insurance to protect
against the potential for salmonella, etc.
Tamina Boonisar said that information should be
spelled out. Dennis Johnson asked if there is a
rental fee and Mr. Dougherty said no, this is
just a deposit for cleaning. Cheryl Myers said
the information is not clear and she questioned
what and who has to pay the fees, insurance,
etc.?
Chairman Dinning said this pertains to a deposit
to rent the entire area including the slab, but
what about the ball fields in District 2? Mr.
Dougherty said he didn’t think the deposit
agreement or vendor fee pertained to the
District 2 fields as they are mainly a sporting
venue. Chairman Dinning asked for clarification
that this pertains to the scheduled use of the
whole area. Mr. Dougherty said yes. Chairman
Dinning questioned various types of vendors such
as tie dye as an example. Mr. Dougherty said the
Parks and Recreation Board hadn’t talked about
that. Commissioner Kirby said the $1,000,000
insurance policy is for food handlers; not other
vendors. Commissioner Pinkerton reviewed the
policies and said some clarification will be
needed.
Commissioners said there has been no material
change to the proposal, and they closed the
hearing to further public testimony.
Commissioner Kirby moved that the
Boundary County
Parks and Recreation Deposit
Agreement and Vendor Fees be rewritten and
re-presented as they are not understandable or
enforceable. Commissioner Pinkerton second.
Motion passed unanimously.
The public hearing pertaining to the Parks and
Recreation Deposit Agreement and Vendor Fees
ended at 1:54 p.m.
1:54 p.m.,
Commissioners held a public hearing to consider
establishing a $1.00 fee for notary services
provided. Present were: Chairman Dan Dinning,
Commissioner LeAlan Pinkerton, Commissioner Walt
Kirby, Deputy Clerk Michelle Rohrwasser, Chief
Deputy Clerk Tracie Isaac, Robert DelGrosso,
Judy Lyle, Judy Dirks, Billie Krause, Larry
Dirks, Evelyn Smith, Irene Rice, Larry Hall,
Katie Landis, Steve Olson, Janise Kerby, Carol
Hampton, Ron Smith, Laura Roady with the Bonners
Ferry Herald, Eldora Gatchell, Richard Beck,
Chris Peterson, Elsie Hollenbeck, Richard
Hollenbeck, Deb Wood, Evelyn Holmes, Tamina
Boonisar, Dave Gray, Joyce Trueblood, Sandra
Chubb, Jeanne Osborn, Jan Klopfenstein, Judy
Everhart, Kathleen English, Tia Avery, Jeannie
Robinson, Rod Robinson, Gini Woodward, Wilma
DeVore, Peach Baker, Carol Grove, Ronald Grove,
Jerre Stemmene, Charlene Wells, Vicki McNally,
Marciavee Cossette, Ray Olson, Sharon Dirks, Don
Dirks, Sally Dutson, Janet Sapp, Virginia
Cowley, Betty Mills, Roberta Bowen, Herb
Thornton, Dottie Gray, Cheryl Myers, Shirley
Hamilton, J. Kevin McNally, George Burnett,
Sheila Benson, Jeanine Bender, John Arrington,
Eunice Neumeyer, Cindy Atkins, Sherri Burnett,
Elizabeth Wilder, Sharon Fitzgerald, Restorium
Administrator Karlene Magee, Ken English, Mary
Voglewede, and Denise Thompson. The hearing was
recorded.
Chairman Dinning said the Clerk’s Office is
requesting a $1.00 fee for providing notary
services to cover the cost of having the
service. Currently there is no fee and if
approved, there would be a fee for $1.00 per
notary stamp. Chairman Dinning asked a
representative from the Clerk’s Office to
explain the proposed fee. Deputy Clerk Chris
Peterson said every time a notary seal is used
there will be a fee of $1.00.
Commissioners asked for comments from members of
public in favor of the proposal. No one spoke.
Commissioners requested comments from members of
the public uncommitted to the proposal. Dave
Gray informed everyone that the public can go to
a bank to have documents notarized so there are
choices available. Cheryl Myers asked what is
behind establishing the fee, and asked if it
takes too much time for a paid employee. Ms.
Myers said the cost of ink can’t be $1.00.
Charlene Wells asked how many qualified
employees can provide notary services. No one
from the public spoke in opposition.
Deputy Clerk Peterson said Idaho Code states
that a fee of $2.00 can be charged for notary
services. The Clerk’s Office is getting non-stop
requests for notary services and the Clerk’s
staff has to maintain a journal as a record.
There are those who have every document
notarized and supplies get used up. It was
explained the $1.00 fee would be charged for
each notary block.
Commissioners said there has been no material
change to the proposal. Chairman Dinning said
there has been some real abuses of this service
occurring. Chairman Dinning asked how many
notaries the Clerk’s Office has. Deputy Clerk
Peterson said all of the Clerk’s Office
employees are notaries and there are
approximately 12 in the Courthouse. There is a
cost of $60 to buy the bond for each notary for
a 10 year period and the notary stamp costs $25.
Commissioner Pinkerton asked if there is a state
review of the journals and Deputy Clerk Peterson
said she hasn’t heard of any.
Commissioner Kirby moved to approve the fee of
$1.00 per notary stamp. Commissioner Pinkerton
second. Motion passed unanimously.
The public hearing to consider a notary public
fee ended at 2:00
p.m.
2:00 p.m.,
Commissioners held a public hearing to propose a
room rate increase at the Restorium. Present
were: Chairman Dan Dinning, Commissioner LeAlan
Pinkerton, Commissioner Walt Kirby, Deputy Clerk
Michelle Rohrwasser, Chief Deputy Clerk Tracie
Isaac, Robert DelGrosso, Judy Lyle, Judy Dirks,
Billie Krause, Larry Dirks, Evelyn Smith, Irene
Rice, Larry Hall, Katie Landis, Steve Olson,
Janise Kerby, Carol Hampton, Ron Smith, Laura
Roady with the Bonners Ferry Herald, Eldora
Gatchell, Richard Beck, Elsie Hollenbeck,
Richard Hollenbeck, Deb Wood, Evelyn Holmes,
Tamina Boonisar, Dave Gray, Joyce Trueblood,
Sandra Chubb, Jeanne Osborn, Jan Klopfenstein,
Judy Everhart, Kathleen English, Tia Avery,
Jeannie Robinson, Rod Robinson, Gini Woodward,
Wilma DeVore, Peach Baker, Carol Grove, Ronald
Grove, Jerre Stemmene, Charlene Wells, Vicki
McNally, Marciavee Cossette, Ray Olson, Sharon
Dirks, Don Dirks, Sally Dutson, Janet Sapp,
Virginia Cowley, Betty Mills, Roberta Bowen,
Herb Thornton, Dottie Gray, Cheryl Myers,
Shirley Hamilton, J. Kevin McNally, George
Burnett, Sheila Benson, Jeanine Bender, John
Arrington, Eunice Neumeyer, Cindy Atkins, Sherri
Burnett, Elizabeth Wilder, Sharon Fitzgerald,
Restorium Administrator Karlene Magee, Ken
English, Mary Voglewede, and Denise Thompson.
The hearing was recorded.
Chairman Dinning reviewed the amounts of the
proposed room rate increase for existing and
incoming Restorium residents. No member cited a
conflict of interest.
Commissioners opened the public hearing to
public testimony and asked for comments in favor
of the proposed increase. No one spoke.
Commissioners asked for public comment from
those uncommitted to the proposed increase. Tia
Avery requested Commissioners read aloud
the rates proposed for year 2014. Ms. Avery
asked how much the county levy is and Chairman
Dinning said for year ending September 30, 2013 the levy is $312,000 and the proposed
levy amount is $392,000. John Arrington said he
had a friend at the Restorium and she had a hard
time as far as insurance funds allocated to her.
Mr. Arrington asked if the Restorium has a
doctor on call and if food is served to the
residents in bed. Mr. Arrington questioned what
loved ones are getting at the Restorium at a fee
between $1,400 and 1,600. Mr. Arrington said the
cost seems high, but the comments are that the
cost is low. Mr. Arrington said he sees how the
elderly are treated so he wanted to know that
the elderly were treated well at the Restorium.
Robert DelGrosso asked if the Restorium would
support itself or still need county support if
the proposed rates are put in place and if the
Restorium was at full capacity. Commissioner
Kirby said no, county support of approximately
$70,000 to $80,000 would still be needed, but
it’s a moving target. Mr. DelGrosso questioned
if the rates proposed are equivalent to
Sandpoint as that is where the elderly would
have to go, and he said $1,400 through $1,900
are fair prices. Commissioner Kirby said the
proposed rates are average statewide.
Ken English mentioned the current levy amount of
$312,000 and he questioned if the levy would be
reduced to approximately $80,000 if there was a
room rate increase. Mr. English said the
Restorium is two rooms short of being at full
capacity. Mr. English asked where is the rest of
the budget going if there is a room rate
increase and he mentioned that new residents
would be paying almost $1,000 more. Chairman
Dinning said if all residents were paying $2,500
today, the county would still have to levy.
Commissioners have to look at the existing
residents and realize the increasing costs.
Commissioners don’t want to damage the existing
residents with a $2,500 fee. Mr. English said
half of the people at this public hearing will
be the next clients of the Restorium and they
don’t have the money. Commissioner Kirby said it
is still cheap. Chairman Dinning said he
anticipates it will take approximately five to
ten years to catch the Restorium up and
Commissioners are trying to do this in the most
gradual way. Eldora Gatchell questioned that the
tax for the Restorium is what the taxpayers had
wanted and she mentioned that dispute in past
minutes.
Dick Hollenbeck questioned if rates will
increase to offset the cost if more new
residents don’t come to the Restorium.
Commissioner Pinkerton said Commissioners are
trying to have as little impact as possible and
he mentioned the costs of labor, benefits, etc.
keep increasing for a $1,200,000 operation.
$312,000 is coming from the taxpayer.
Commissioner Pinkerton said for the future value
there needs to be an increase in order to keep
the Restorium in good hands and to close that
gap, but Commissioners don’t want to do that
overnight. It will take over five to ten years
to close that gap. It’s going to take time to
close the gap of a $392,000 budget shortfall. At
the new rate of $2,500 for residents, there is
still a loss today. Mr. Hollenbeck asked if the
Restorium loses residents, will the cost
increase for the remaining residents.
Commissioner Pinkerton said he hopes the
Restorium won’t lose residents because it’s
still a good facility. The county has an
agreement with the existing residents for a
certain amount. Mr. English said Medicare is not
raising any rates that would allow him to stay
at the Restorium.
Jan Klopfenstein said in business increases are
good business practices and she asked when the
last increase was. Restorium Board Chairman
Larry Dirks said there has been a 60% increase
over the last six years. Chairman Dinning
questioned if occupancy at the Restorium had
decreased. Tamina Boonisar asked if the average
increase was 5%. Chairman Dinning mentioned a 5%
increase this year and next year. Dennis Johnson
asked how many non-profit senior living
facilities are there in
Idaho. Chairman Dinning
said Boundary
County
has the only county assisted living facility
left in Idaho.
Mr. Arrington asked what the Restorium earns in
a year. Chairman Dinning said if someone were to
account for the Restorium as a private facility,
it loses $312,000, plus accumulated depreciation
of the building. Mr. DelGrosso mentioned
Obamacare, and he questioned any thoughts on
increases to employee benefits. Chairman Dinning
explained that the county is grandfathered in an
insurance pool, and as long as the county
doesn’t change anything, it won’t be mandated by
Obamacare. Commissioners have been made keenly
aware that part time employees working 30 hours
or more will now be required to have insurance
paid for by the county, and that would be a huge
expense to the facility.
Commissioner Kirby said changes to the budget
and personnel have been made for fiscal year
2014-2015. The part time employees will take a
loss otherwise the county will have to pay
insurance.
Tia Avery said there is no doubt that everyone
wants to help, but with $312,000 going out, and
the Boundary Volunteer Ambulance matter, a lot
of things are coming up and she doesn’t see how
everything can be funded. How can we keep asking
the community or county for money? Chairman
Dinning mentioned how the Friends of the
Restorium have provided a lot of support to the
Restorium. Ms. Myers said she was raised here
and is proud to be caring for people. Ms. Myers
said it appalls her that people worry about
supporting the elderly. We have a community
Restorium and people need to quit whining about
paying some money. Jeanne Robinson said she read
that the Restorium is operating in the red, but
the Restorium is not operating in the red. The
Restorium wasn’t intended to be self sufficient,
according to Ms. Robinson. New industry can look
at this as how the community can support
seniors. Ms. Robinson said one Commissioner says
he’s conservative and doesn’t want his taxes to
go to the Restorium and another Commissioner
says he doesn’t want his mother at the
Restorium, but what if she wants to go there?
Ms. Robinson said she has grave concerns about
the local elderly. Ms. Robinson said the
Restorium is not to be supported on rent alone.
It’s a decision that should be made by community
vote. Judy Dirks said she is required by
scripture to take care of widows and the
elderly. If rates are raised to this extent, the
seniors who wish and want to move to the
Restorium can’t afford to pay their own way. Ms.
Dirks said she’s speaking as a registered nurse
and as a daughter of a woman who flourished
in the Restorium. Ms. Dirks said there is a
petition with 567 signatures as of last
Wednesday in regards to the Restorium. Please
consider to raise the rates slowly. Ron Smith
said there have been comments of $312,000 and
that is the levy. This next year the levy will
be $391,000. Mr. Smith asked if that is the levy
submitted by the Restorium and he asked what
caused the big jump. Mr. Smith said he had heard
of there being $50,000 in reserves and he also
mentioned the $2,000 spent to have a study done
would’ve been better spent on the residents. Mr.
Smith mentioned that for the 16 years he spent
working for the county he never had a person
contact him questioning the levy for the
Restorium. The Restorium was never supposed to
be self sufficient and people don’t mind paying,
according to Mr. Smith. Stating the Restorium is
operating in the red implies it’s not operating
within budget. Mr. Smith discussed a meeting
held years ago about plans for the Restorium and
what the thoughts were. Public hearings for rent
increases have been held in the past. Mr. Smith
said he would like to see the minutes about the
feeling the Restorium should be self sufficient.
Restorium Advisory Board Chairman Larry Dirks
said to clarify for years he was told the
Restorium budget was tight so please don’t spend
it. Mr. Dirks spoke of improvements made to the
Restorium over the last few years and of
donations made. Mr. Dirks reviewed what he feels
the proposed rates should be and he said it’s
not the rooms; it’s the service. There has been
a lot of discussion over this and most residents
don’t have the extra $700. A petition contains
567 names of people who want to continue
supporting the Restorium. Billie Krause said she
has friends who are very social and if their
spouse dies, they wouldn’t be able to keep up
their own residence and all they have is social
security.
Betty Mills said she doesn’t need to stay at the
Restorium yet. If the rates are raised for
incoming residents, she will not be able to
afford it. Cindy Atkins read a comment letter
from a resident into the record stating they
hope to keep the rates affordable. Dottie Gray
said there are two groups of people, those being
kids and the elderly and neither group is in
total control of their situations. This is a
community about people and we’re just looking at
dollar signs. Community equals unity, according
to Ms. Gray. Ms. Dirks explained her experiences
and costs at another assisted living facility
when she had a family member there. Ms. Dirks
said the Restorium needs to be celebrated and we
need to applaud the staff.
Cheryl Myers said Restorium Administrator
Karlene Magee deserves a hand and the staff
aren’t employees, they are a part of the family.
The employees care and make the residents feel
loved and cared for. The newspaper should know
the Restorium hasn’t been operating in the red.
Ms. Myers said to not cut employee hours and
wages. Betty Mills said if the elderly go to the
Restorium and go on Medicaid, the county will
end up with their properties. Eldora Gatchell
asked to comment on the Restorium and added that
she is in favor of the Restorium. Ms. Gatchell
mentioned one line item in the budget showed
approximately $300,000 and a projection of
$200,000, and she said she would like to better
understand this. Jeanne Robinson asked if that
means not as much money will be requested the
next year. Wilma DeVore presented Commissioners
with the county’s budget that was published in
the newspaper.
After receiving public comment Commissioners
felt that no substantial changes had been made
to the proposal, and they closed the public
hearing to further public testimony.
Commissioner Kirby said Commissioners have heard
the comments and some require some study.
Commissioner Kirby moved to continue the public
hearing on a proposed room rate increase at the
Restorium until
10:00 a.m., on Tuesday, August 27, 2013. Commissioner
Pinkerton second. Motion passed unanimously.
The public hearing ended at 3:30 p.m.
There being no further business, the meeting
recessed until tomorrow at
9:00 a.m.
***Tuesday,
August 20, 2013,
Commissioners met in regular session with
Chairman Dan Dinning, Commissioner LeAlan
Pinkerton, Commissioner Walt Kirby, and Deputy
Clerk Michelle Rohrwasser.
Blue Sky Broadcasting Reporter Mike Brown was in
attendance of various meetings throughout the
day.
9:00 a.m.,
Commissioners held an elected
officials/department heads meeting. Present
were: Chairman Dinning, Commissioner Pinkerton,
Commissioner Kirby, Treasurer Jenny Fessler,
Assessor Dave Ryals, Prosecutor’s Office Manager
Tammie Goggia, Planning and Zoning Administrator
Dan Studer,
Chief Probation Officer Stacy Brown,
Noxious Weeds Superintendent Duke Guthrie, Road
and Bridge Superintendent Jeff Gutshall,
Extension Office Educator Carol Hampton, and
Restorium Administrator Karlene Magee.
Chairman Dinning said there wasn’t much on the
agenda, but one thing was to remind employees to
take the Idaho Counties Risk Management Program
(ICRMP) training online. The proposed budget has
been printed in the newspaper and the budget
hearing is scheduled for
September 3, 2013.
Chairman Dinning said Commissioners will look at
the holiday schedule as extra holidays are going
away for this next budget.
Commissioners asked if there were any updates
from the various departments. Ms. Brown said the
number of juvenile cases continues to climb and
the incidents are happening in groups. Ms.
Goggia said the juveniles getting into trouble
are now the kids who have never had a five day
school week and probably have very little
supervision on Fridays because parents have to
work. Ms. Brown said there has also been an
incident with SPICE, a synthetic drug, so the
Probation Office is testing juveniles for that.
Mr. Studer there had been concerns over the mud
bog on Highland Flats and he wondered if anyone
had checked out the snowmobile park or any
concerns that had been voiced. Mr. Gutshall said
he thinks the roads are fine, and he feels
snowmobile traffic in the spring does more
damage. It was said there had been berry pickers
camping at the snowmobile park prior to the mud
bog. Chairman Dinning said he did get feedback
from a fire department and ambulance group who
said the event was organized and ran smoothly,
but there was a low turnout. Ms. Hampton said
family movies are being shown at the fairgrounds
on Friday evenings. Ms. Hampton said 240 people
showed up to watch the movie the second time the
event was held.
Chairman Dinning said he appreciates the
cooperation between the department heads and it
makes the job easier.
The elected officials/department heads meeting
ended at 9:10
a.m.
9:10 a.m., County Noxious Weeds Department
Superintendent Duke Guthrie said he’s pretty
much done spraying for weeds and he will do more
spraying in the fall after it cools off.
Commissioners asked about the City of
Bonners Ferry’s sewer
lagoon and the City of
Moyie
and Mr. Guthrie said he took care of spraying
those areas already. Mr. Guthrie said he
received more insects for spotted knapweed
control. The bugs are free to the county, but if
they had to be purchased they would cost $1.00
per bug. The bugs mine the root system and the
plants become stunted and eventually die in
approximately five to ten years. Mr. Guthrie
said there are safe chemicals to treat knapweed
as well.
Mr. Guthrie provided a brief update on a grant,
and discussed looking for a truck for his
department. The grant is funded through RAC
funding.
The meeting with Mr. Guthrie ended at
9:20 a.m.
Deputy Clerk Nancy Ryals joined the meeting at
9:20 a.m.
Commissioner Kirby moved to go into closed
session under Idaho Code 31-874. Commissioner
Pinkerton second. Motion passed unanimously.
9:26 a.m., Commissioner Kirby moved
to go out of closed session. Commissioner
Pinkerton second. Motion passed unanimously.
Commissioner Pinkerton moved to deny indigent
applications 2013-4, 2013-26 and 2013-25.
Commissioner Kirby second. Motion passed
unanimously.
Deputy Clerk Ryals left the meeting.
Commissioners tended to administrative duties.
Bonners Ferry Herald Reporter Laura Roady and
Blue sky Broadcasting Reporter Mike Brown joined
the meeting.
10:00 a.m.,
Commissioners held a conference call with
Kathleen Trever with the Attorney General’s
Office to discuss grizzly bear de-listing. Also
participating in the call were: Patty Perry,
Kevin Greenleaf, Norman Mertz, and Scott Soults
with the Kootenai Tribe of Idaho; Wayne Wakkinen
with Idaho Fish and Game, Senator Shawn Keough,
Brad Smith with Idaho Conservation League,
Dustin Miller with the Office of Species
Conservation and Wayne Kasworm with the US Fish
and Wildlife Service.
Ms. Trever said there had been a presentation
from Tony McDermott with the Idaho Department of
Fish and Game for the Kootenai Valley Resource
Initiative Grizzly Bear Subcommittee (KVRI)
regarding the Position Paper on delisting bears
in the three ecosystems. Chairman Dinning talked
to Ms. Trever about gaining better understanding
of the basis for going forward.
Ms. Trever said for legal disclaimer Mr. Miller
with the Office of Species Conservation is also
on the telephone and that is an entity in
Idaho
responsible for endangered or threatened species
listing. The Department of Fish and Game’s
position is parallel to those efforts. Ms.
Trever said one driver for the Commission making
a position statement is there are two areas
involved. One is less interest to geographic
area. Delisting the Yellowstone
population has been a motivating factor. Ms.
Trever said there needs to be a clarification on
the bear. The Yellowstone
population was proposed for delisting as a
distinct population and based on service. That
is in the process of being resolved by the
Service. What had been a year in the de-listing
process is now two to three years. Part of the
delay is confusion and how inconsistently the
Commission has addressed ecosystems. These are
two systems identified as unique systems, and
legal entities state what can have this status
are species, subspecies and population segment.
The Grizzly bear has been identified as a
species. The greater Yellowstone
bears are proposed as a distinct population.
From Commissioners’ perspective and looking at
the position on the matter, the Selkirk,
Cabinets, and North Continental Divide are
extremities to populations in
Canada. Where
it becomes confusing is sometimes the Fish and
Wildlife Service has identified separate
potential actions for these areas for different
classifications. Sometimes the Commission treats
them together. Ms. Trever said she can only
represent the Service as their legal advisor.
What they’re trying to do is identify at least
strategic concerns on how the overall ecosystem
the Fish and Wildlife Service treated for
specific purposes for de-listing. The Bitterroot
area shouldn’t be considered de-listed because
it hasn’t been occupied habitat.
Ms. Trever said there is talk about de-listing
the Continental Divide separately, but for
strategic planning ahead, it’s important to work
through that as part of the Interagency Grizzly
Bear Committee. Commissioners felt that
Committee established mechanisms for management
in Idaho.
One item is what agency is appropriate for
taking and making sure the actions that the Fish
and Wildlife Service take has some reason for
different ecosystems identified.
One thing is whether or not that specific entity
is facing extinction. One issue that has come up
is what the range of the species is and what is
considered a significant portion of the range.
The frustration of the Endangered Species Act is
how the Fish and Wildlife Service has a draft
policy that went out of what specific portion of
range, but that has not moved forward. There are
certain uncertainties from a legal standpoint
for Grizzly bear ecosystem. There are five
factors for listing decisions. There are some
inconsistencies from a legal standpoint for
regulatory mechanism, and mortality and threat
issues came up. Ms. Trever said it might be
helpful to ask questions, but she wanted to give
a big overview of why the Commission made that
statement.
Chair Dinning said for clarity, if he
understands, is that when you look at the 30,000
foot view for lack of a better term and you
start including big portions of Canadian
occupied territory of Grizzly bears, the
Commission is saying that population should be a
one class population across three zones once you
look at a bigger scale? Ms. Trever said that is
the Commission’s view. The Commission didn’t
want to tell the State of
Montana what to do, but
they said those northern ecosystems are fingers
that tie back to a larger population in
Canada, so it’s
appropriate to look at them in context of a
group. That is where the Fish and Wildlife
Service analysis provides lack of clarity and
the Commission wanted to address that. The
desire is to keep population or relocation of
bears and treat them together in making
de-listing decisions.
Chairman Dinning said if all the genetic
connectivity has to occur, will that trend the
population to one genetic makeup specially in
going north or looking at fingers, and he asked
why not treat them as one population now. Ms.
Trever said to distinguish from the greater
Yellowstone population. According to the Fish and
Wildlife Service, the Yellowstone
bear has low connectivity to the north even
before the settlers. There are isolation issues
as far as the Selkirks in a few generations. The
choice is to have them roaming connected or
manage them as separate population and then some
of the recovery goals need revised.
Ms. Perry said Wayne Kasworm was able to join
the call and she asked how we are coordinating
as a state with Montana.
Ms. Trever said the Fish and Game Commission is
discussing coordinating the Commission. There is
a meeting amongst three states and this will be
a topic she assumes will be addressed. The
Commission wants to make sure of a coordinating
effort and make sure all entities, states,
Canadian provinces, and the Fish and Wildlife
Service have coordination whether in revised
recovery or coordination reclassification. Ms.
Perry said there is an annual meeting with the
departments or Commissioners from
Wyoming,
Montana and
Idaho, and they talk
about a range of topics the three areas are
interested in.
Brad Smith with Idaho Conservation League (ICL)
asked the status of Grizzly Bear in
Canada
and of their management. Mr. Kasworm said as far
as Grizzly bear in Canada there is not an
Endangered Species Act, and as far as British
Columbia is concerned, they do recognize the
population in the Selkirks and Purcells as
populations of special management and might even
list as threatened or endangered at the
provincial level. Mr. Kasworm said there hasn’t
been a hunting season, and he mentioned
Canada
is drafting a management plan, but it’s not
complete at this time. Until the mid 1990’s
there had been limited entry hunt in the
Selkirks north of the border and sometime around
1993 or 1994 the limited entry hunt eliminated
due to conservation efforts. There hasn’t been a
hunting season in the
Yaak
River drainage since the 1970’s. Mr.
Smith asked if anyone in
Canada
has a population trend. Mr. Kasworm said the
trend he manages mentioned
Cranbrook, and he
mentioned there is still some decline, but the
rate of decline has been improving for some
time. Mr. Kasworm said there are six female
collared bears in the
United States
right now, but he is not sure about
Canada. A 1.5%
per year increase was mentioned. Ms. Trever said
if good questions are raised later, she can
always follow up. Dustin Mille said the same
goes for the Office of Species Conservation, and
that office appreciates Ms. Trever’s analysis.
Mr. Miller said he will try to come to the
September Kootenai Valley Resource Initiative (KVRI)
meeting. Chairman Dinning thanked Ms. Trever and
Mr. Miller for their time.
The conference call ended at 10:30 a.m.
Mr. Brown asked where Commissioners are going
with this topic. Chairman Dinning said this was
just informational. It was asked if there is a
case that will lead to litigation with the Fish
and Wildlife Service and Chairman Dinning said
he couldn’t speak to that.
Commissioners recessed for lunch.
1:30 p.m., Commissioners reconvened for the
afternoon session with Chairman Dinning,
Commissioner Pinkerton, Commissioner Kirby, and
Deputy Clerk Rohrwasser.
Blue Sky Broadcasting Reporter Mike Brown joined
the meeting.
Commissioner Kirby moved to authorize the
Chairman to sign the Resource Advisory Committee
(RAC) Grizzly Bear Application. Commissioner
Pinkerton second. Motion passed unanimously.
Attorney Tevis Hull and County Public
Information Officer Mike Meier
joined the meeting at
1:30 p.m.
Chairman Dinning said there has been some
inaccurate information published in the
newspaper and Commissioners are interested in
having the accurate information printed and he
asked if it would be appropriate for
Commissioners to do that. Attorney
Hull
asked Mr. Meier where he is coming from. Mr.
Meier said when you have an organization
publishing erroneous information and you do
nothing, it gives the information credibility,
but if other information is published, the
reader can decide which information is true. Mr.
Meier said he would suggest Commissioners
publish the facts otherwise people will assume
whatever is published is true. Attorney
Hull said it is perception and
reality, and he said he agrees from a political
and informational stance for the constituents.
Information can be used to influence to vote
certain ways. Attorney
Hull said he would agree with Mr.
Meier. Mr. Meier said Commissioners deserve to
let people know the truth. Attorney
Hull said taking the high
road in the duration of negotiations is letting
people know what is going on.
Attorney Hull
said Commissioners need to agendize their
discussion with Mr. Meier for the appropriate
amount of time. Commissioners scheduled the
meeting for this next Monday.
Mr. Brown left the meeting.
1:40 p.m. Commissioner Kirby moved to go into
executive session under Idaho Code #67-2345(1)a,
to consider hiring an individual agent; and f,
to communicate with legal counsel for the public
agency to discuss the legal ramifications of and
legal options for pending litigation, or
controversies not yet being litigated but
imminently likely to be litigated. Commissioner
Pinkerton second. Commissioners voted as
follows: Chairman Dinning “aye”, Commissioner
Pinkerton “aye” and Commissioner Kirby “aye”.
Motion passed unanimously.
2:45 p.m., Commissioner Kirby moved
to go out of executive session. Commissioner
Pinkerton second. Motion passed unanimously. No
action was taken.
3:00 p.m.,
Joe Farrell and Darlene Schneider with Pace-Kerby
Real Estate, Planning and Zoning Administrator
Dan Studer, and Airport Board member Don Jordan
joined the meeting.
Chairman Dinning said there are some concerns
about zoning near the airport and he wants to be
careful as it relates to Planning and Zoning.
Mr. Farrell said he requested the meeting as
more of a fact finding mission more than
anything else today. There is a piece of
property listed for sale that is impacted by the
zoning change. Dan Moore owns a couple pieces of
property and a buyer had wanted to purchase all
of the property. When the zoning was changed
this area changed to commercial/light
industrial. The buyers had been thinking of
putting a home on the property in the future,
but the fact that they now can‘t, they don’t
want to buy it. The current zone doesn’t allow
for residences. Now the buyers want to buy the
other piece belonging to Mr. Moore and combine
them. Mr. Farrell said that is the premise for
him being here as he represents that property.
The properties can now be sold and consolidated,
but then there is a remaining piece. Mr. Farrell
reviewed the area on a map with Commissioners
and he mentioned Dennis Shelton doing some
residential work and of his plan to sell.
Commissioners reviewed the map for
clarification. Mr. Farrell said he also owns
property near this area as does Mr. Howard, and
the airport may or may not end up owning that
property in the future.
Chairman Dinning said he thought Dr. Moore had
created a subdivision for a piece of property in
that area, but he couldn’t recall if that had
been approved. Mr. Studer said that had never
been recorded. Chairman Dinning said he’s
concerned. Mr. Farrell said he’s not
representing that. Chairman Dinning said at this
point this is what it is and whatever was
changed was changed to commercial/light
industrial, and he is sure everyone received
noticed at one point. Mr. Farrell said he was
not personally affected, but that zone goes to
his property line. Mr. Farrell said he was not
notified, but he doesn’t know if he was supposed
to be. Chairman Dinning said with what is in
place, what is it that Mr. Farrell is
requesting? Mr. Farrell said just to brainstorm.
Mr. Farrell said another thing Steve Moyer had
pointed out on commercial/light industrial rules
is that it says driveway access. In order to get
a permit to build anything fewer than 15,000
square feet driveway access to a county road has
to be there.
Mr. Farrell listed the residents who have homes
along the rim and he wondered how this zone
would affect those properties. Mr. Farrell said
just he is just making Commissioners aware.
It was asked what good would it do to have 10
commercial lots on that road if Dr. Moore had
gone forward with the subdivision. Ms. Schneider
questioned what the use would be. Mr. Farrell
asked about a zone amendment? Mr. Studer said
that would require two public hearings. Mr.
Studer said his recommendation was to have
property owners meet with the Airport Board and
propose a rural residential zone or even a
residential zone. Just south of the airport is
residential. This could take the area of impact
and extend to the south of
Sunrise
road, according to Mr. Studer. Or have a rural
residential zone, which is one area and would
make more sense, according to Mr. Farrell.
Chairman Dinning said if it’s the owner’s desire
to request that change, to do it properly there
would have to be an application to the Planning
and Zoning Commission and the Airport Board
would have input at one point, but that doesn’t
preclude from meeting with the Airport Board.
Planning and Zoning would have a public hearing
and Commissioners would also have a public
hearing based on an appeal from the landowner
who didn’t receive what they wanted, or to
accept the recommendation of the Planning and
Zoning Commission.
Mr. Farrell asked about the matter of having no
access off of a county road. Mr. Studer said
uses require a county permit so if a driveway
accesses a county road, speak with Road and
Bridge Superintendent Jeff Gutshall who fills
out a paper saying the access would be approved
and he would list the details. Chairman Dinning
said he believes the zone change was because of
the FAA or their suggestion. The county road is
only to the turn, but it would be nice if the
county brought that road up to the standards,
according to Mr. Farrell.
Mr. Jordan
said the Airport Board could meet with Mr.
Farrell and his clients, but the Airport Board
is an advisory board such as Planning and Zoning
Commission, and this isn’t the area the Airport
Board should be taking a lead in as it’s a
Planning and Zoning role. Some of this could be
a potential conflict with what the FAA thinks.
Commissioner Kirby and Mr. Jordan reviewed a
map. Mr. Jordan
said the airport has a runway protection zone
the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) is
concerned about and he described it on map. Mr.
Farrell said if this affects Dr. Moore and how
would Dr. Moore get compensated for this. Mr.
Farrell said Airport Manager Dave Parker
mentioned it sounds like the
Moore
property is next for the 2016 project. It was
said Mr. Parker had mentioned the
Moore property, and that mention
could be conveyed to Dr. Moore. Mr. Farrell said
his job is to disclose any adverse information
about a property.
Commissioner Kirby said to hold on to the
property because the FAA will pay more than Dr.
Moore had ever hoped. Chairman Dinning said if
they want to change the zone, to fix this they
need to go to the Planning and Zoning Board. Mr.
Farrell said they wouldn’t want to do a zone
change for Dr. Moore because he is in the runway
protection zone. Chairman Dinning said he
doesn’t want to say a decision is made because
it’s in the runway protection zone. Mr.
Jordan
said a decision will hinge on several things. If
the property is in the extension of the airport
and if approved, the FAA would probably like to
see the airport purchase that property and right
now everything is in limbo. Chairman Dinning
said for the process Commissioners probably
can’t talk much more about this from the
standpoint of potential court matters.
Mr. Farrell said there is no agenda, and he’s
glad Mr. Moyer said something as he would have
to claim negligence if he had sold property.
The meeting with Mr. Farrell, Ms. Schneider, Mr.
Studer and Mr. Jordan ended at
2:30 p.m.
Commissioners tended to administrative duties.
There being no further business, the meeting
adjourned at
3:22 p.m.
/s/
DAN R.
DINNING, Chairman
ATTEST:
/s/
GLENDA POSTON, Clerk
By: Michelle Rohrwasser, Deputy
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